In this episode of the Beat The Press podcast, we speak to Leo Pearlman, executive producer of Sunderland 'Til I Die.
Join us for a discussion that starts with Leo's time on the Roker Park terraces, supporting the club he would go on to make a documentary about.
We look at the driving factors behind the second series of the programme, with first-hand insight into the thinking of owners Stewart Donald and Charlie Methven.
Leo talks to us about the 'rotten' culture they inherited, the transfer plans which were scrapped to sign Will Grigg and the lessons that both men could have learnt from Mike Ashley.
Coming soon: Part 2 of our interview with Leo, covering reaction to the documentary, his answers to listeners' questions and the latest on the unlikely star of the programme, taxi driver Peter Farrer.
Part 1: Introduction - the sport documentary appreciation society (00:14)
Part 2: Interview - a discussion with Leo Pearlman (05:06)
Part 3: Reaction - pressure puts paid to the best-laid plans (31:47)
Part 4: Pressure Cooker Corner - waiting for the penalty spot to be painted before taking a spot-kick (39:00). Watch the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdFwl11WUAg
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